tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5581081264152283332.post7762777834906227838..comments2023-05-18T04:12:58.640-04:00Comments on >>>The (b)Right Libertarian: What's wrong with native rights?Allen Smallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13663655836753638994noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5581081264152283332.post-35326048542626963892014-08-15T23:49:19.619-04:002014-08-15T23:49:19.619-04:00Really, so we can close the Min. of Aboriginal Aff...Really, so we can close the Min. of Aboriginal Affairs? I refuse to pay my share, of course nothing will happen to me. Give me a break. I have never mentioned assimilation. I honestly don't care what happens - I did not consent to be ripped off. Furthermore, I don't recognize their sovereignty. As far as being indigenous, their is good evidence that aboriginals arrived after the ice age, just earlier than Europeans. Allen Smallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13663655836753638994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5581081264152283332.post-69476390856415754502014-08-15T23:31:06.793-04:002014-08-15T23:31:06.793-04:00No, because said obligations COULD be fulfilled wi...No, because said obligations COULD be fulfilled without the initiation of force, but the assimilation of multiple sovereign indigenous nations and the denial of their contract rights cannot.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01800204108648992256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5581081264152283332.post-89340516725518153162014-08-15T23:05:19.604-04:002014-08-15T23:05:19.604-04:00On the contrary, an unsettled obligation made by f...On the contrary, an unsettled obligation made by foolish signatories on both sides, that compels present and future generations to pay a tax, is against the NAP.Allen Smallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13663655836753638994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5581081264152283332.post-46070539617691500452014-08-15T18:32:18.997-04:002014-08-15T18:32:18.997-04:00They want freedom from government like us, and the...They want freedom from government like us, and the non-aggression principle favours my position. I don't want them to be a department under our government. I want them to be sovereign, as they were before the government tried to forcibly assimilate them.<br /><br />Also, "returning the land is out of the question" is not what the Libertarian Party of Canada's platform says. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01800204108648992256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5581081264152283332.post-31390643301517777642014-08-15T17:26:44.071-04:002014-08-15T17:26:44.071-04:00Unrealistic for native's to vote for us?I'...Unrealistic for native's to vote for us?I'll let the Mohawk's Bay of Quinte read your comment's and that way we can surely say they will Not vote for us.Foolish comparison's.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13446427680300280124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5581081264152283332.post-6807546224131760982014-08-15T14:20:25.084-04:002014-08-15T14:20:25.084-04:00The natives gave up their right to sovereignty whe...The natives gave up their right to sovereignty when they gave up their land. If they wish to be sovereign, then act like a nation, with defined borders etc. Sovereignty is not a department of another government as it is now. Look at the results, look at what happened, reality is reality. Don't tell me that this works - it hasn't, doesn't and can never work.<br /><br />A deal can be made, but returning the land is out of the question. It has been homesteaded (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestead_principle) away. The concept of land ownership among many native groups did not exist, and even if it did the land was still given up. The only question now should "in return for what?"<br />That is where we are today, there is no going back to correct an error. There is no benefit to the natives to continue as is.<br />And by the way, its unrealistic to think that native groups would ever vote for us. We want less government, they want status quo - won't happen. Allen Smallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13663655836753638994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5581081264152283332.post-71385238141146584582014-08-15T12:36:26.387-04:002014-08-15T12:36:26.387-04:00With all due, respect, and I will try to keep this...With all due, respect, and I will try to keep this short, by leaving out many of my objections...<br /><br />Gay people aren't a sovereign nation. That's the difference. It's is not at all "special treatment by race." We received land, in exchange for a number of promises. There are actually more than are listed here, and the officials who wrote the treaties have admitted that there were a number of other provisions that were negotiated, but not included in the documents. So, if you no longer wish to honour our commitments in the treaties, then fine! We simply give the land back, and we no longer have any "debt."<br /><br />Individuals WITHIN a society have equal rights, but we have no right to dictate domestic policy for other rightfully sovereign nations. Assimilation is not compatible with libertarianism. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01800204108648992256noreply@blogger.com